With a member of the blogg hinting about hidden messages... ...I thought that I would pick up again on another topic that I have talked about before - that is - media - and the hidden messages in them.Secret societies, well, thats old news. The masons have been around since... ...well... ...since the beginning. Their organization is quite large, these men and women have families, which have children. The preferred choice for disseminating information to there next generation is of course word of mouth. This is do to the fact that you don't leave your dirty laundry laying around for everyone to see. So, how to send out a newsletter without it looking like what it actually is: Mason Monthly...
...you disguise it as fiction, and encode messages in it.
It is a tried and true method of spreading the word among your own people while at the same time funding the means to do so. It is a beautiful thing really. Like a child riding a bicycle, its difficult to understand and figure out at first - but - once you figure it out - you can pick up a bicycle and go anytime you wish. Same thing with cryptology...
Now, the image above... (insert semi-evil laugh) ...is a billboard for what I am trying to tell you all about. The image above is the writers guild symbology for the famous "Amazing Stories" - "pulp" magazine. In it we can see the image of a ring planet (Saturn), a crescent moon(ours), seven stars, a large central gear (symbolic of the "Rotary Club") that has lighting bolts as its spokes (symbolic of energy/electricity) and two other gears labeled "Fact" and "Theory"...
Now beyond that you will notice that the old style pen is actually a lab beaker whose tip that controlled by the gearing of "Fact", and that gear in turned by the "Rotary Club" gear. The ink in the pen dose not spell "Science fiction" - indeed not - it spells out "Scient - i - fiction"... Did I fail to mention that the "Rotary Club" is deeeeply connected to the Mason's? I think I did... ...
With all of that being said, is the underlying secret hidden message is who is behind the "Scient - i - fiction"... ...if you look closely to the image you will see a drafting compass drawing a semi circle... Also embedded in the image is the Drafting square... Both of course the primary symbolism of the Mason.
Now, "Amazing Stories" is not the only sort of publication of its type to have symbolic images and messeges, indeed not. Also included in these media outlets for "spreading the news" where Thrilling Wonder stories, Planet Stories, Stiring Science Theories, Startling Stories, Cosmic Stories, Astounding Stories, and ...Galaxy. Depending on what "sect" of society you where in and what you wanted to know about - you could choose your publication - and decipher the latest news...
Among the authors of these seemingly unambiguous science fiction stories include Jules Vern, H.G. Wells, Edgar Allen Poe... ...and... Arthur C. Clark...
Now, to steal a little bit from Hoagland...
Who knew what - and when? ;-)
:-X
Sword
72 comments:
Do not forget
Edgar Rice Burroughs!
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0401729/
John Carter - Warlord of Mars - Excellent reading!
I think your missing the point Gree - have you read "Moon with a view" yet?
Sword
Okay,
I think I MAY have found the BEST image that RCH may have used in his Moon With A View 'webumentary'.
btw...if THAT is first time you've heard of the word...I thunk it up :)
I searched and googled it amd got no hits from the Oxford site.
So I guess I DID make it up :)
Let's spread it around and get it into the Oxford dictionary :)
First use here on Sword's Blog
anyhooo about the resolution of the BEST image I can find.
"Images taken in infrared (centered at 930 nanometers), green (568 nanometers), and ultraviolet light (338 nanometers) filters were combined to create this image. The view was obtained with the narrow angle camera on December 31, 2004, from a distance of about 172,900 kilometers (107,435 miles) from Iapetus. Resolution achieved in the original image was 1 kilometer (0.6 miles) per pixel. The image has been magnified by a factor of two to aid visibility of surface features."
Above from:
http://ciclops.org/view.php?id=707
This is the imaging Prinicple Investigators' site.
So at best each pixel represents .3 or 1/3 of a mile...the old' 33 MASONIC degrees huh?
Oh how cute they are aren't they...RCH didn't have to double the original .6 mile/pixel on his own and take the 'heat'...the PI's themselves did that AND colored it for us.
Now...someone else can figure out how high Horus or the gate actually are in feet :)
btw...Gary...this also now makes "The Faces of Mars Brothers-Omens of the Past" a grand "WEBUMENTARY" ;-{)
Start using the word folks :)...everywhere...spread it like golden pollen in a hayfever addled crowd of sheeple :)
Bob...:D
http://commonsensecentral.blogspot.com/
What I learned from Frank Herbert's Dune:
He who desires the best for all is outcast.
In the end, the outcast overcomes.
:-D
Seems I should have googled 'webumentary' first :-/
Oh well...it's STILL not in the Oxford dictionary though.
Bob...:D
Swank Robert... thats awesome...
.3 miles = 1584 feet = 528 yards
The best I can do with an original image is 12 pixels top to bottom, now if it has been magnified by two - would it be six pixels?
This is making me nuts...
12 pixels equals 19,008 feet... ...six pixels equals 9504 - which sounds more reasonable... which is about 3168 yards... should have added an extra zero to my initial math in the original blogg (last blogg entry)
Christ - the original description I read many summers ago doesn't really do it justice.
I can't wait for the other Cassini images to be made public. They parked that thing right in that giant hexagonal landing area and pointed it right at the entrance, couple thousand feet up and away from the moon... ...DAMMIT! Wheres Hoagland and that damm article seven!
Nothing can move forward untill the damm scientist sings! Sing dammit, sing!
NOTHING on earth or the heavens above it can match this locations beauty and symbolic meaning - NOTHING! OH! The stunning effect it had on its original author! Now I understand - now I can comprehend the original text! OH! To stand there and marvel at our ancestors work - their projection of power!
By time a Reconnaissance Orbiter reaches it - it will already be out in the open - I want to know NOW!
Thanks Robert for the insight... its going to be a ruff going until that damm article seven gets posted...Last thing I need to be doing is rambling in text my lamentations of old dreams...
Sword
Gort -
Your email is coming up invalid...
Send a different email...
Sword
MWAV was probably one of the most provocative article RCH wrote. Certainly had me waiting for the next installment. I would really love to see this wrapped up.
So, is that entrance you wrote about about 1000 ft high or so. I was never good at math.
Wayne
re: the thunderbolts in the main gear...
Note that there are 5, in 'Vitruvian Man' style. The main gear represents 'man'.
In the 2nd image, where the robot is absconding with a 'man'...dumb robot, shoulda grabbed the blonde, then he would have means of reproducing another homo sapiens!
OK, interesting theory...but just what the heck does 'Scient i fiction' mean?
What does the Image tell us?
What's the siginificance of 7 stars, and seven only (seems that's often repeated in the NASA patches, right? Is it Sirius, the Pleiades? What?)
Is it possible to obtain a copy or find out what the contents of that edition were? (Assuming maybe the message on the cover was "PICK THIS UP, BROTHER, HIDDEN MESSAGE INSIDE"?????)
You've made a case....now, WTF?
"Resolution achieved in the original image was 1 kilometer (0.6 miles) per pixel. The image has been magnified by a factor of two to aid visibility of surface features."
if it makes it easier...when they multiplied the thing by a factor of 2...that means the resolution is divided by two...i.e. instead of .6 miles/pixel it is now that Masonic .33 miles/pixel.
Now 5,280 feet = 1 mile
so the resolution on the image(s) is actually 160feet/pixel
Bob...:D
Bob... Ya said...
"btw...Gary...this also now makes "The Faces of Mars Brothers-Omens of the Past" a grand "WEBUMENTARY" ;-{)"
MR:
Ha ha. Well, maybe. But I am still in SHOCK-U-MENTALLY mode.
Article part 5j is being done up now. Wait till ya see the puns & punchline & PRECDICTION given in attributed connection to article part 5i. Youz did read it right?
MR
Sword. A puzzling factor. You said...
" I AM looking forward to your article Part 5, section K. I mean parts 1 - 5 where great, as where sections A through J... ..."
MR:
Now this is having me buzzin in anticipation. As you said you can't wait for section K. Hmmmm.
For article Part 5 I assume?! Then you said that sections A-J were great.
Hmmmmm. Think about this. J is being done now for article part 5 sections.
Now you said especially section K... Your expecially looking forward to.
I can imagine. There are a couple 'FACES' to that page what it will hold. That will get many laughs to some. About me.
Yet it shows me.. or tells me.. also something else I wonder if I can believe. Or not.
MR
Now this is funny & strange.
Following the FACE or MEANING, from the last article part page of 5i, article part 5j is now up. It continues along the mind set of 5i.
To appreciate the attributes & connections, I hope youz read it.
http://www.martianrevelation.com/FaceOfMarsBrothersPart5j.html
MARS REVEALER
SunKing said...
re: the thunderbolts in the main gear...
Note that there are 5, in 'Vitruvian Man' style. The main gear represents 'man'.
In the 2nd image, where the robot is absconding with a 'man'...dumb robot, shoulda grabbed the blonde, then he would have means of reproducing another homo sapiens!
Sword:
Yes, and the main gear with its points also represents a pentagram...
On the robot stealing the man away - that is - the robot with the one eye - is stealing A MAN away... ...the main central eye surrounded by his little buddies...
...would this not symbolize a man being taken into the fold of an orginization that is represented by one eye - with smaller orginizations supporting it? There is a much bigger message on the cover than one would realize at a curious glance...
I am throughly surprised that no one really KEYED into that one right away...
Ohhh, I'm sure SOMEONE has a copy of that pulp magazine...
Sword
MR;
In reference to:
http://www.martianrevelation.com/FaceOfMarsBrothersPart5j.html
Still hounding on ol' Rich?
Diplomacy eludes you...
I don't think ANYONE is ever going to be a guest on your show EVER again...
One of your primary allies, friend, and money making show guest - and you attack him like this? You've called him a commie, a liar, an ass, and you have even threated to "beat him down"...
Word does get around - good luck with your "show" - its going to be difficult to have anything of value for the listener when your just talking to yourself. You have lost touch with reality and proven yourself NOT to be a reliable, trustworthy show host... You have gone fucking NUTS!
Now, I don't want to be part of this Hoagland bashing that YOU have embarked on. I will not host your blabbering, sniveling, accusatory remarks. Leave that shit on your own blogg... Anymore of that shit here and its going to get dumped and then your going to walk the plank. Stay at least on topic (relevant to the posts) - or don't stay at all...
Sunking might be more tolerant than I - but your dragging me into this shit like I'm your daddy or something...
From here on out - don't post your "Face of mars brothers" links here anymore - NOR your rants about how wronged your where - I don't want to be dragged into - or implicated in - your downfall...
Thats it!
Sword
FYI -
Gort, your email is still pending as unreachable...
Jas - or Jesus (ahem...) your email has not come up bad - but you still have not accepted the invite you requested...
And - Blasted is back! - just got his email today
The "author list" is long and distinguished - thats what she said! HA! - and growing bigger everyday... (TWSS) HA!
Just would like to thank everyone for coming by and gracing the pages with actual thoughts and commentary...
Now - back to the topic at hand.
I'm actually pretty surprized that the only one really interested in the blogg topic - is Sunking - and normally he thinks I'm full of poo...
Think about it people, read the post, and think about what I am trying to tell you. :-)
BYW - Robert - figuring out that the pixel resolution was .33/mile - well - thats just shear genius - thanks for the input. That puts our "gate" at about 1k feet and our outer statues at about 1.5k feet. Brilliant!
Sword
The coming of the asteroids is not for a number of years yet (2012?), I think if the people were aware, humanity would come together and work together. Imagine, Putting everything else aside, a united peoples working together? If you keep the people in the dark until the last minute, then of course you are going to see the chaos you speak of. (War of the Worlds)
There is time now for people to prepare, there is no time if the TPTB save this info until the very last minute, unless of course, they are out only to save their own butts anyway. And if this is the case, what type of leaders are they that sacrifice so many for so few? All the corruption, bloodshed, lies, cover-ups, on and on..... all in the name of who’s righteousness? Humanity has become compliant, lazy, selfish, you name it, because of all of the lies fed them from birth. It is time for Truth. Truth could be the power that lifts the veil, cleanses the soul, and saves Earth. Humanity may just surprise you if given a chance and enough time.
Ok, feel better now. Back to work. Great blogs all. Will try to keep up to date.
Are these relics from the past, or the future? Interesting interview from a fellow, can't remember his name, I am sure a FSHODDER will know who I am talking about. This fellow was working with Visitors from the future, different timelines.
Wow, over 1k ft tall, thinkin how big that is compared to Empire State Building. Really looking forward to those Cassini pics, hope they do give us clean ones. Fingers crossed.
Wayne
Consider that the title of Clarke's story in that first comic, is "Against The Fall Of Night".
It is interesting to note, that is his first novel published in 48 (after originally being rejected by John W Campbell).
Beyond the comic, what is interesting is he revised the novel, retitled it, and republished in 56 as "The City And The Stars".
There were some significant contrasts between the two versions, with the original being surprisingly popular to the point of staying in print after the second version came out.
That said there is a good comparison at wikepdia with a couple of interesting examples of the cover art.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_City_and_the_Stars
Note: the new art for the cover of the 2001 edition. A Doomed city in a crater with a familiar tower in the background(ala Hoagland moon images-i think?)
In the various sharp contrasts of the original and the revised stories, this stood out for me worth mentioning:
There is a slight difference in the way the two books treat the "Master" and the "Great Ones". In Against the Fall of Night it is eventually revealed that the Great Ones were the people of the Empire who had left the galaxy. The Master is presented as a wise man, a philosopher, whose teaching was misunderstood and made a religion by superstitious followers. In The City and the Stars, however, he is a religious leader who uses trickery to advance his goals; the block on the robot was imposed in order to keep his secrets safe. (Nevertheless, he did teach much that was wise and noble.) In the later novel the "Great Ones" are not identified at the end of the novel as they are in the earlier version.
one further detail I paused to see contrast: in Against the Fall of Night, showing the new possibilities created by computers in the post-war years. In the earlier novel, there are master robots, but they are multiple and do not seem to have the active supervisory role of the Central Computer. The Central Computer is not a single machine but the primary sentient Artificial Intelligence that oversees all the computing power in Diaspar. The Central Computer in Against the Fall of Night merely a functioning computer demonstrating no self awarness whatsoever. In The City and the Stars it talks and has a definite personality.
While I am not a great fan of Clarke's writing style compared to Herbert, Heinlein, or Baxter, as a discloser though, these novels of his deserve a closer look, thanks to Swords Blog.
Sword said:
BYW - Robert - figuring out that the pixel resolution was .33/mile - well - thats just shear genius - thanks for the input. That puts our "gate" at about 1k feet and our outer statues at about 1.5k feet. Brilliant!
---
rhw:
It took a looong time going through the PDS data base to find the thing...what tipped me off that there was one IN the pds was two things:
1. My main opinion that I do not think RCH got ANY 'inside' data image from NASA/JPL/Cassini people for his webumentary.(NOT a slur against the man...but I just don't think if he got one he would post it like Keith Laney did...who I believe DID get an 'inside' image back in 2002)
2. I saw an animated video of the 'flyby' and as such there MUST therfore be ALL the images used to make the flyby in the PDS releases.
So it was a matter of REALLY looking carefully and fully.
Now...as to comments about your blog post.
I KNOW there are Masons, Illuminati, Bilderbergers, Council of 9, G8, Kinghts Templar, etc...
I even belive there are SWORD units as I stated at RCH own BBS once such that I meant the following:
Space Warefare Operations n Reconasaince Department i.e (SWORD)
I also have done enough research with UFO declassified documents and Greer's book, along with hosting Stanton Freidman, and having personal conversations with Nick Pope, Grant Cameroon, Stephen Bassett, Jim Mars, and a few others at the 2004 X-Conference in Washington DC to know that there are multiple space programs going on in the solar system.
But...what I am REALLY working forward and towards is a way of making MAINSTREAM MEDIA to awaken to these facts and issues...and to do that...I need MORE 'inside' information AND documentation and images, video, sound...anything that will stand up and say :
PAY ATTENTION !!!
THAT's always been my goal. the NASA FOIA was a rightous step in that direction. I still think that Section 1206.300 is used as a basis to classify things...though nowadays one only has to call on Dickey Cheney to say "Loose it"...and that item WILL dissapear...unless someone on the 'inside' decides to do what I've been clamoring for:
Hijack data or craft
Until then our discussions are burps into the ethernet I think...though we don't give up the fight...we MUST realize the obstacles in our path...so we can either go around, over, under, aside, or simply blast our way through to the OTHER reality we could have.
Bob...:D
Thank you Sword, am digesting the subject, hidden symbology. There is a lot here in Miami...
Test.
Sword, I got your invite and your rpy to my email.
Interesting post.
Gort
Right on Bob, truth is compromised with the MSM across the entire spectrum. And it is really bad now. Take for instance the BAE scandal and Cheney. All things are important and openess on all fronts is what is needed. But, oh yea, I forgot. The masses don't matter. Silly me.
Btw, thanks for diggin up that pixel info. Damn that thing is big.
Wayne
Sword - Your last post(It's all about the image - Iapetus) was pretty weak on the image inhancement - not to bash Robert - but many more pixels would help to see the truth.
Thanks for sharing, but I need more to go on.
Yes, I have checked out TEM site and read the article quite awhile ago and it just died(never finished), and your point being!
This Moon(Iapetus) is a very interesting object.
Dear Rover team,
PLEASE investigate FULLY the feature named 'Sputnik' at the entrance to Duck Bay BEFORE going down into Victoria crater...it is right there at the doorstep
BEFORE descending into Vistoria crater...from which they admit they might not make it out..they should investigate and get close up images of the feaure just to left of Duck bay in the image:
http://marsrovers.nasa.gov/gallery/press/opportunity/20061006c/rover-red-close-up_annot.jpg
Here is a 3D image of this 'Sputnik Crater' from the rover itself...
http://marsrovers.nasa.gov/gallery/press/opportunity/20061006a/Sol952B_P2388_L7R1ana.jpg
The rover needs to go around this crater and look inside BEFORE it goes down into Victoria...after then...it may well be too late to really study this odd feature on the entrance to the long road down into Victoria...would like going into a home without first looking around at the porch.
Bob... :D
http://commonsensecentral.blogspot.com/
Have you a notion Robert, about that 'feature'?
Even though I half expect some one now a days to just walk on past the little remote toy rover, we know they likely wouldn't give observation time of a potentially controversial anomaly to a public device like that.
o.k. kind of stating the obvious there. :)
But, lately I find myself reflecting on the disclosure process here itself.
Lets take SWORD as legit, let alone Richard Hoagland.
IF as Richard has said in numerous places, the disclosure of a number of 'discoveries' will radically affect 'beliefs' and other aspects of human existence all over the world, then we are at a very delicate time in our history.
So, as RIchard is poised in some respects to 'make history' or usher in a historical moment , with the eventual revealing of various signatures in the local solar system, and the rocking of the 'spiritual boat' so to speak,
then I am brought seriously to wonder what "OUR" role here is?
Anyone ponder that?
Are we a litmus test for these guys?
Most surely THIS is not a game, or fun hobby.
So, SWORD, kindly gives of his time, letting out the bigger picture, but at this 'somewhat' obscure locale and audience we are, I pause to wonder why US?
Nothing really 'actionable',
..... no one has said run for the hills, "YET".
Hey SWORD, do you guys need immigrants? Civilian smarties like us to participate? ;
What's really up with this point? Are we just the audience that helps sell the story and peddle some Dvd's? Surely not, I'm just being funny here.
But if this level of sharing of key knowledge is not really happening ANYWHERE else(as far as I have seen), then lets consider the wider justification for SWORD's endeavour here.
Swod: we are receptive, and are contemplating many of these issues with some flexibility, but other than being able to say you told some sheeple, who thus woke up a little more or at least a little faster, please clarify how we fit in with your effort.
Others, in numbers are likely reading this Blog, but we are members who can grok pretty freeform on the fly and propel discussion in comments.
Do you simply ask that we absorb this disclosure and merely be informed? Or, is there more to this exercise than that?
I know you may well ignore my query here, but do answer to the extent you can please.
Sword,
LAMO at your 'topic' and 'poo' comment.
re: your 'eye' comment and tacodogs comment about the unifying effect of incoming'... I submut the 1949 sci-fi classic by Max Ehrlich 'The Big Eye'
Amazon's reviewer Gary Masters says, "In this entertaining but earnest story, the world is going to be destroyed by a planetary impact and in the course of events people make peace, stop wars and settle down to the good life. The twist ending is a surprise. The lead scientist has fudged his calculations so that the Earth survives with a close miss. The lesson is that if people are scared enough they may do the right thing. But it is fiction. One can only hope we can change at all. As one can expect, others have covered the same topic and even Heinlein had a go at it. He was more cynical."
Look at the book cover pic at this link!
http://www.amazon.com/Big-Eye-Max-Ehrlich/dp/B000NW4M36
Ion,
On Friday I decided to find that book and do a book report on FSHOD.
Sunking excellent find.
Which book are you going to report on? "Fall of the Night" by Clarke and its companion republish?
That would be great.
I am still in the midst of a slow read of Baxter- Manifold Space. It is profound to me, what he touches on, and across large time he weaves a multi faceted story. Dodec.ally multifacted...;)
SunKing said...
Look at the book cover pic at this link!
Sword says:
Sure looks like our "Moon with a view"... ...now doesn't it?
IonTruO2 said...
Do you simply ask that we absorb this disclosure and merely be informed? Or, is there more to this exercise than that?
Sword says:
To a response of all that entailed that last comment...
Yes there is more to this exercise than that. I seem to have been given a free hand this time around of blogg posting. That is - I am not getting any heat from the TOP.
You see, the time is becoming nigh - nigh indeed.
This September we will be getting better pictures of our very special little moon. Certainly Rich is going to post something - he has to! There is waaayyyy to much going on right now as far as imagery is concerned. MRO is going full tilt ahead - Cassini (the public one) is going to have better images - the two rovers that you [in the public] know about are doing the deed.
So... ...back to the topic... ...why am I doing what I am doing...
Well, I am trying to introduce you that are reading that are not aware of all the secret society stuff going on that: 1)Its not as devious as you might think - & - 2)Its designed to help you save yourself, from yourself... ...in the "soon to be panic stricken" American public sort of way...
Those who are not "in the know" are slowly being acclimatized to the fact that WE, that is, the Masonic Culture are going to be coming out of the wood work very soon.
My goal for those who are Not in the know is to educate and spread the word so to speak - word of mouth is the best form of advertisement. Once "it" all goes public - I can say at least that there are a small group out there who could add to the conversation outside this blogg...
Those individuals will then direct people to Rich's site which will be full of factual information - "The Real Deal" - if you will...
On top of that... ...we have those readers and commenter's who are in the know - AND - the several of you who are actually members of my platoon.
Yes, yes... ...as shocking as it sounds there are those readers who do comment who are members of my platoon. Then there are the "watchers" - members of my platoon who are waiting for it all to go public, but haven't said anything yet. Considering the number of new sign ups for the blogg - I am certain that they are feeling the anticipation of the time line as well...
My goal for them is to let them know that I am still alive and well (are you surprised?... at all?)... ...and that things are moving along as we have expected...
My ultimate goal is to perhaps let it be known that Richard is indeed onto something. His search for the truth has led him in the right direction... ...it led him into a dimly lit basement... where through trial... he finally found the truth he was looking for...
Now he is part of a elite club of science authors who have been let in on the truth, and what we are planning to do about it. He is of course on the "fast track" due to his "late" arrival to the scene... ...now all he has to do, is his part... ...and we ALL are waiting... ...it has been long planned & the way has been prepared...
Late September or the turn of the year - either way - IT IS ALL COMING OUT!
As with anything I have done, I do it for the people, and there children. I, among my men at least, am notorious for selfless acts. To my enemies am I notorious for other reasons. Oddly enough, it was not I who started this path - but another of my men, his name was Brewer. It was he who garnered support from the other men, and started the whole "Project Disclosure" operation in the first place.
Perhaps, once its out in the open, he will reveal himself, and he would perhaps explain the WHY of this better than I...
Sword
BTW - EVERYTHING - is documented and recorded, and archived... ...just let that sink in a little...
Posters and commenter's alike can rest assured that everything "said" can come back to haunt you...
(Cough... MR ...Cough)
Remeber - I didn't say you would build it - I said you would dig it...
AND
He never denied anything - he just brushed it off until I put the heat on a little more and then he went underground to write a book - about what?... Perhaps his experiences with the gang, and his involvement, and his adventures since then. Sure to be a good read - especially when the truth hits the fan...
Sword
As a favor for someone else I was asked to annotate one of Keith Laney's Color ESA images with the names of all the 'major' features in Cydonia.
I'm not aware that this has been done on this massive scale before, nor have I seen any large Cydonia area...in color...at pretty good resolution for ESA...and an image THIS clean to look at and then figure out where each 'major' feature is and then to go ahead and label...or name...it.
So...I have begun on this tiny portion of this image. For interesting features and for help in me or others in remembering or pointing out previously 'named features' I might have left out I added Q's 1-25 for help in navigation and discussion for naming features in 'Downtown Cydonia'.
As stated, this is only a small portion of the entire ESA image Keith did...but it concentrates on the major known features area only. It is meant, when completed, as a guide to helping those who are FIRST coming into this 'Cydonia Controversy' into navigating around the area and also an aide in discussions about 'Downtown Cydonia' in general. I think this will be VERY helpful as we get more Cydonia HiRise images and especially when MRO HiRise opens the camera for PUBLIC targeting requests. When we have an image map, with annotation, I think it will be EASIER to then point out to the HiRise folks WHICH particular feture we would like HiRise to target.
This is NOT meant to be argumentative...nor is it meant to be a 'silly' exercise in naming an unknown feature 'BeavisButthead'.
I would hope that ALL who help contribute on this effort will recognize some features I have either forgotten about or were unknown to me when I annotated the image. If someone has 'issues' with one of the annotations...then suggest why it is wrong.
As for naming a 'new' unnamed feature I am open to suggestions as how to finalize and choose names. There are areas to the west that do NOT have any Q's to help narrow down features...If there is sufficient interest I will add more there at some point. But the MAIN purpose of this exercise is to identify all the major features I know of and concentrate on the 'Downtown' area...the suburbs can wait until I have more web space for the FULL ESA 9 MB image Keith has done...then we can do the suburbs and outlaying towns n villages.
This image of Downtown is less than 2 MB.
Downtown Cydonia
So...let's hear some feedback...
Bob...:D
btw...Sword...there's this great 1807 Masonic Church for sale in my area... :) only $110,000 but the man is willing to take less if the buyer agrees to fix the place up and keep it in good condition.
Bob...:D
Here's a link for you to take a look:
Champlain Church Sale
Bob...:D
SwordThank you for your reply, and thank you for your candor.
Valuable dialogue, let it be 'on the record'.
I only hope the wider snapshot for myself is not a chain of babbling recreationalism(yes-homemade word ;) ).
I think not, I think intent shows through, for all of us crew. Such is sincerity.
So, while I be uninitiated, I amongst others, find myself in a state of remembrance, more than a distinction like new, 'novelty'.
How odd.
Wonder-filled yet somehow already understanding?
o.k. frivolous civilian musings.... :-P
(deeper than a record will show)
final thought: nigh indeed
nigh-(as adj.) departure time was drawing nigh
interesting definition!
...in respect Sword: Faith Hope and Charity
Da
robert said...
Here's a link for you to take a look:
Champlain Church Sale
Sword says:
Thanks for THAT info... ...
Has anyone else noticed that the "window" openings are actually three star of davids in a pyramid formation? On top of that the window openings resemble, strikingly, a very famous church in Europe where Knights of the Templar are supposedly entombed? It's all about the math...
Now on to your MAP.
The MIL Factory MRO is on this area like white on rice - while the Intel Factory MRO is looking over some of the other curious, and unknown to public scrutiny, areas of interest... but onto the map...
I would say, for argument reasons, that I have a little Intel of my own to spread around... (giggle)...
Mischief - first thing I taught the men - so men - forgive me...
Q-1 is an observatory
Q-4 is a "civilian" hanger, the rusting remains of one of the ark like ships... ...oddly enough, it looks like a "buck rogers/retro space ship"... ...the stylized shem if you will...
Q-13 is the MIL hanger, those ships being more angular in there construction... ...keep in mind their shelters have collapsed over them...
Q-16,17,18,19 is the major university center... ...on the whole damm planet
Above q-12 is referred to "The pit" I had seen images of this area long before I even knew where it was. I was asked some time ago to do an analysis of what I had seen in the image. It was a poster sized image of incredible resolution considering it was taken in the seventies - and it wasn't a large ranging image either - it was up close and very specific. There was the hole, and a very distinguishable road leading to it, and down into it. This was BEFORE I translated the symbols on the shem figuring out it was a lifeboat... Anyway - in this image I was certain that it was of some sort of new pyramid they had found here on earth...Not so they said, it was on Mars - I guess thaht was one of the entrance exams to the club... anyway - moving on... (Robert, I certainly would like to revisit that topic, I perhaps was a little course in my comments to your earlier blogg post... ...but indeed I was so very excited that you had brought the subject up)
Q-22 is the major residential. "archco-logy" (super large structures) area, complete with gigantic greenhouses and associated support buildings - while it dosen't look very important - this is where we believe we are going to learn the most about the socio-cultural aspects of the people... ...indeed, also there plant life, that was not native to the planet...
Now, the next thing I would like to add is that everyone has the D&M pyramid all wrong... ...wrong in the aspect that they have it turned the wrong way...
The true axis, or baseline of the D&M is North-west to South East - with the nose of the structure pointing SW (relative to the photo, top being North)... ...once you look at this way - the relevance to the pentagram becomes clear...
Now, if that doesn't give you all something to either cheer or spit at - I don't know what else to do to spark your intellectual nature...
"Cydonia" is/was/still is - considered the cultural capital of this world. Now, there are other locations that are just as large, and just as exciting to explore - BUT! - we are extremely lucky to have this remaining as it is. Buried under tons of sea floor sands when the oceans rose to destroy it, an immense amount of data can and will be found sealed in various store rooms and basements. Hopefully not everything was inundated with water. We are still hoping for one or two areas that where virtually untouched.
Where lucky enough to have two different shems of two totally different aspects of culture just laying there on the ground... ...last one there is a rotten egg... ...or shall I say a woefully under teched society...
Now - if only - if only, we could get someone on the ground there... ...if only... :-) :-X
I haven't even gotten to ION's post yet...
Sword
BTW - there is much on this map that doesn't have a label (Q point)...
Sword
BTW Robert - Your masonic church message - was the 33rd comment... ...
Sword
IonTruO2 said...
So, while I be uninitiated, I amongst others, find myself in a state of remembrance, more than a distinction like new, 'novelty'.
How odd.
Wonder-filled yet somehow already understanding?
Sword says:
"How odd" ... ..my ass... ...brother...
Faith, hope and charity to you to, for we have seen the path, and the first time through - is oh - so, very, difficult...
Sword
Sword said...
"...and the first time through - is oh - so, very, difficult..."
Perhaps is just me, but navigating Chapel Perilous do seem to be not quite so severe if one maintains a well cultivated sense of humor. I personally recommend They Might Be Giants: "Everything right is wrong again..."
:D
Ion,
Sorry...I can see how the 'book report' statement could be confusing. I was referring to the book by Clarke.
The Big Eye I first read back in the late 60's...a book in my grandparents home library..and now residing in a box in my garage. Get read about every 10 years.
Baxter has co-authored several books with Clarke, all good. I think I did a book report at FSHOD (or it might have been on Goro's STRUG) on Baxter's novel Sunstorm...which I was synchonistically reading during all those sunstorms late late year.
But it seems there are more than one collaborations of Clarke-Baxter that have storylines that lend to the topic(s) at hand...artifacts at the edge of the solar system/galaxy, impending doom to Earth but not necessarily mankind, etc.
Seems to be a trend with Clarke, fer sure!
I was bored so I started playing around with the image of the first magazine cover for this blog. I overlaid the cover with the Cydonia image that was posted earlier and align the lighting gear with the D&M pyramid and discovered that the pen/test tube lines up with the Face structure. I played around with the cover image to see if I could get the stars to line up with some of the other features, but it didn't work.
At any rate, seems to be saying something about a Saturn Moon that is somehow tied in to the Pleiades star cluster. Theories about this relationship drives "Man" to discover facts that are being given to us in the form of Science Fiction.
I might be pulling at straws here though.
Cover Overlay
Oh almost forgot, test tube might indicate DNA, since it looks to be filled with blood. So perhaps indicating that we originate from that region of space...
Just throwing out theories.
SunkingGotchya. TKS
Baxter/Clarke?!!!
Well that is interesting Sunking, thank you very much for that connection. Didn't know that at all at this point.
Gonna chase that notion..... as well as Sunstorm.
clamytoe good stuff. work it dude, work it.
Sword and co. are pointing us lately at images. Images with very specific details, consciously placed. Almost as good or better than a good Sumerian Cuneiform tablet. ;)
Remember Sword said: here is a much bigger message on the cover than one would realize at a curious glance...
Sword you also said: This was BEFORE I translated the symbols on the shem figuring out it was a lifeboat...
I remember when you first spoke of that. Now your as bad as Sunking with that " I ain't that smart" routine!!! ;P
I don't know too many Sgt. Rock's who translate Sumerian very well.
Good stuff.
Clamytoe said...
I overlaid the cover with the Cydonia image that was posted earlier and align ...
Sword says:
Right direction - wrong method...
I can tell you that the pulp mag cover and the map of cydonia have nothing in common - that is - you wont make any discoveries there...
However - excellent use of imagination...
You might have better luck using the orientation of the D&M that I discussed earlier in these comments...
BTW - Welcome to "The Blogg"...
Sword
Thanks Ion and Sword,
Glad to be here. :) Now as far as your first alignment suggestion, all I could picture was the satanic pentagram. Is that the direction that you're leading us in? Into the Masonic occult?
oh boy, your very new...
1 - the pentagram is not satanic
2 - I'm not leading you into the Masonic "cult"... ...the "Masonic Cult" is the Federal Government - have you looked at the back of a dollar bill lately?
Sword
Yes I know, the pentagram has earlier Wiccan/Pagan origins. Was also used to represent Venus and Lucifer, "The Morning Star, bringer of light and knowledge".
I used satanic because it's one of the most known symbols of it that everyone can relate to it. I guess the D&M pyramid could also be compared to our own U.S. Pentagon building...
Sword yes I KNEW that the Masonic Church post would be the 33rd one in this blog comments...I worked it out that way :)
And Clameytoe...GOOD overlay !!!
And yes the DNA thing DOES point to the 'Mission to Mars' underlaying theme that WE are the Martians...:)
Getting tired and going to bed. I added new names to the annotated map. has same name and url as before.
Okay NEW annotated version is up with over a 100 Q's and a few named features. I used DUNE to get MAUD'IB and CHANI in there between the FACE and the D&M...there is a Vulture Mountain, and a Acadilia Temple, and a few others from other folks.
http://home.twcny.rr.com/commonsenserhw/commonsenserhw/H2872-KL-colorCydonia-web-RHW.jpg
(PS...same link url as before...each update will have same name)
Cydonia Amusement Spots
File size still only 1.1 MB
Someone suggested putting long and lat lines on the thing.
I would if I new EXACTLY where to place them within the minutes and seconds needed so people can then search the PDS for images of better resolution from other missions of these features. Anyone know where to exactly put them?
Also MGS MOC used a different long and lat than ALL the other missions...so which set do we use? My vote...NOT Malins' !!!
btw Sword I used a couple of your suggestions.
Bob... :D
Wow Bob,
You've been busy! Nice update. The addition of Lat/Long lines would be a nice touch. You did misspell pyramid though.
Keep up the good work!
Clamytoe said...
Yes I know, the pentagram has earlier Wiccan/Pagan origins.
Sword:
If you would notice the pentagram on mars ... ... I would say it has MUCH older origins than "Pagan" beliefs...
ClamyToe - I think the D&M Pyramid looks like a "Shield", just rotate it 180 and check it out.
If it feels EVIL, BEWARE!
Sword said:
If you would notice the pentagram on mars ... ... I would say it has MUCH older origins than "Pagan" beliefs...
Clamytoe:
Heh, now that's an understatement! Thanks for the nudge in the right direction.
Meangreen, I rotated it around and it definitely takes on a whole new look that way. Thanks.
Sword Pardon me. A little smudging happening between our respective Blogs. It all blends so well.
For continuity of your theme here, may I transfer that recent piece over?
Sunking had said:
I see the only use for those bullets in Sword's link is to be used by American troops against American citizens.
Tuesday, July 03, 2007 11:18:00 AM
iontruo2--> Geesh Sunking your hot these days.
O.k., cause and effect?
Sword had said: Well, I am trying to introduce you that are reading that are not aware of all the secret society stuff going on that: 1)Its not as devious as you might think - & - 2)Its designed to help you save yourself, from yourself... ...in the "soon to be panic stricken" American public sort of way...
iontruo2-> We already know that order can crumble fast.
So what triggers?
You once used cryptically the word 'revolution' but now I think you meant that quite literal, as described as 'motion in orbit-or a circular course-or around and axis or center.......better yet the single completion of an orbit or rotation
So it 'comes full circle' again to the theme of bigger 'things' causing the panic stricken public....not necessarily political etc.
my question of tonight to stir discussion:
Has the debris field been 'imaged' or sited yet, within 'your' sphere?
( You wondered previously if it was earlier than first thought.)
In future history, lets NOT use the word "shower" to describe it, o.k?
Geminids and Leonids never sounded right as meteor showers.
They're Storms or barrages or space blizzards!
But I do feel "showers' was a terrible piece of misdirection. Guess maybe they went for the short brief intense surprise strategy at the very end.time of the circumstance.
I get it now!, those were effective means to teach people to express wonderment and joy in the midst of a 'shower' of falling stars.
Wow, fireworks too, start to become intelligent desensitizing practice as I see it.
How to laugh in the midst. hmmmm.
Tuesday, July 03, 2007 11:47:00 PM
iontruo2 said...
I wonder now about what do you do with a "Sunstorm", eh Sunking?!
Every see how 'aroused' even a low cycle Sun could be with a single passing comet(NEAT i tink).
O.k. maybe thats why they refer to horses being in HEAT'
We're talking horny sun, CME.ing her ass off in the midst of a debris field forplay.
Cool, maybe I got some mylar maybe I don't.
Maybe I 'll just trust and pray someone will play....the Haarp that day.
Now where is that old tale: The Sword, the Shield and the Harp?
Hmmm, so many things to ponder when trying to keep in tune.
Wednesday, July 04, 2007 12:00:00 AM
hhmss sword said...
IonTruO2 said...
Has the debris field been 'imaged' or sited yet, within 'your' sphere?
( You wondered previously if it was earlier than first thought.)
Sword:
Yes, several images where retrieved from the "Major Tom" mission (not the real name of the mission - but what we call it)... Two outer images, and one inner (inside the debris) also included in those three data streams was radar composition and a host of other simpler instruments... ...it was in fact the technology of the 60's...
Latter, two sets of geological information was sent from cores, which where sent via radio, by voice that is... The geological makeup is not unlike the earth or mars - general dirt...
Now - have I been allowed to see those images, radar or the geological data?
No...
That stuff is so high secret - even talking about it here is sure to get a big frown from the TOP - and they know me very well, so the reasons of why I haven't seen them YET is probably very obvious.
BUT - we do know its there... ...and we know its coming - just like clockwork. I just hope that the two recent passes through the ORT cloud hasn't changed its makeup to much. I also hope that the Apollo capsule tomb that lay on the surface of inner larger piece of debris has not be destroyed... we can't go back on our promises now can we?
BTW ION -
We should leave this sort of material for my own blogg. Sunking doesn't really like my babel...
Nice play on the HAARP... Those ships are really something - like a seventieth century galleon with its huge deployable array. Sailing the seas of the void...
Sword
Wednesday, July 04, 2007 1:19:00 AM
iontruo2--> Now I understand the "Major Tom Mission", tks. It was one way, with the sixties technology. Astonishing selflessness and bravery. The intent is to recover them, this time? Such heroism, I only hope the people will know one day. It makes walking on the moon seem somehow child's play now in contrast.
If I may ask: If it was the sixites, how far out did your guys have to go to catch the debris field at that point? Wouldn't it have been thoroughly WAY OUT at that stage of orbit?
I'm not doubting, I'm just contemplating the scope of that trip in an Apollo capsule!
So, in trying to understand this story more clearly, if you look at this avatar I have now, showing a pentagonal orbit for Niburu(&co.), I can understand the two passes through the Oort Cloud.
As an optimistic thought, I feel the momentum and size of the field would probably have swept the Oort Cloud objects aside as it passed through 'en masse'.
By St. Sophia, I am a little confused as to what the Star of Bethlehem story was, relative to your greater disclosure. It showcased the Great Tradition yes, of the Maji international astronomer Wise Men, but the object was definitely too recent to be the debris field itself wasn't it?
So was that just a body 'from' the original explosion, that itself in those days 2007ish years ago that the Christ was apparently born, 'brightened' and fell in seven streaming stars(or something poetic like that). Or were you saying THAT was the moment of shattering itself?
Don't mean to backtrack, just trying to tie it together properly.
Sword - While the public waits till Sept. 10th for new revealing photos of Iapetus, can you make a prediction that would help vindicate your cause/actions here. Maybe something extraordinary that will be shown in the new photos that leaves no question.
I hope this is not another Tower of Babel!
iontruo2 said:
1 - The intent is to recover them, this time?
2 - If it was the sixties, how far out did your guys have to go to catch the debris field at that point?
3 - ...[sniped]...but the object was definitely too recent to be the debris field itself wasn't it?
MeanGreen said...
...[sniped]... can you make a prediction that would help vindicate your cause/actions here.
Sword says:
1 - Not, THEM... ...HIM. NASA trained geologist, 33rd degree mason, SWORD volunteer, brave to the bone... I never leave anyone behind. I have no MIA's - NOR - will I knowingly leave a man behind, regardless of the fact thats he's dead either. Thats a matter of contention with me and the TOP's... They forbade it, and I basically said that I'm already going to be out there and they are more than welcomed to come along for the ride and try to stop me.
2 - The guys at NASA, there inside guys - they guys that are so smart that they are put to work for the fed's because they are to dangerous to work anywhere else - are EXTREMELY good at astro-navigation...
Getting there wasn't as difficult as you think... Sure it was an Apollo module - but a customized rig at best (thats putting it lightly). Imagine if you will two bus lengths... First portion was the crew area, right behind that was the coreing rig, and everything behind that was fuel and oxygen. They sling shot that baby multiple times to get behind it, slightly gaining, then using the last of the fuel - landed on the first large body in the center of the debris, there was a second move to the second largest body to confirm the first set of data...This was apparently on the beginning of the "top of the curve" so to speak - just before it was reaching the "outer limits" of the solar system. Now, I never saw any schematics of the ship, or anything of that nature. I was simply told certain things. I did however listen to the audio from the mission. The last several hours where heart breaking - not a dry eye in the house when I played this stuff back for my men...Absolutely gut wrenching... The most helpless I have ever felt in my life. Wanting so much to reach out and help this man who committed himself to his certain doom knowingly... Completely unselfish... Brave to his very bones... I don't even like thinki9ng about it now. While the rest of SWORD and the rest of the Naval units set up there ships to push that sucker into the gravity well of the sun - MY ASS and that of my men are going to be looking for that beacon and bring that courageous man home to his wife. The HEADS and TOPS promised him while he was on his death bed that they would make every attempt to bring him home... ...in come me - when I found out that there was to be no real attempt to do so - I came unglued... THIS UNIT has NEVER made a promise and not upheld its obligations. I WILL NOT set a precedence for the future generations of MY KNIGHTS to hold as an example. Where not going to leave one of our OWN, behind, we never have and never will.
I get so riled up even thinking about it...
3 - The wise men where witness to the newly brightened star of crossing. As I stated sometime before - the records that they read [the wise men from the bible] of the last recent crossing spoke of how it was getting closer to the sun. As the ancient "wise-men" astronomers predicted - the "holy father" grew angry and lashed out and smite it - effectively turning it from a planet to the debris field. This was actually a very beneficial thing (that the holy father for that one)... Much easier to push larger objects one at a time than a planet still whole...
MeanGreen said...
Sword - While the public waits till Sept. 10th for new revealing photos of Iapetus, can you make a prediction that would help vindicate your cause/actions here.
Sword says:
I smell fish bait... ...
I already made these predictions in several emails to a notable scientist some years ago. This is why I am screaming Article Seven every chance I get... The revelations that I gave to him - came true. The things I told him to look for all came to pass. This is why article seven is so damm important to me - it makes evident who I am and what WE do...
Now - http://www.enterprisemission.com/images_v2/Iapetus3/Denk-2007-Observations.jpg
-this image tells me a great deal of information... ...as it should everyone. It pinpoints some very interesting places on out little stronghold...
A number of close-ups of the things that I told Hoagland about will be made evident to us - on September the 11th of this year...
A few close-ups of the front door would be nice...
Now - onto the bait - I don't force anyone to read this stuff. You read for your own leisure. If I sound nuts - fine. Don't believe anything I say - that s okay too. I don't have to prove who I am - thats already been planned to be somebody else's duty...
And its coming...
Sword
Stayed up to get new one out with Orbits' lon and lat lines plus changes requested for names;
same file name:
Cydonia Downtown Amusement Spots
As stated elsewhere your hanger and pbservatory were previously named. Hanger by Richard Hoagland as childhood's end and the observatory was named by a TEM BBS memeber Bones as gorgon...I used the hanger name elsewhere at about 350.2 east near the top.
Keep looking and naming though...appreciate the help :)
Bob... :D
From Coast to coast:
...[sniped]...Hoagland suggested. Further, he said there is evidence for a secret space program, hidden by black budgets, that probably doesn't use rockets. The whole NASA agenda could be a "false front" to distract the public away from what the other program is doing, he continued.
Sword says:
Now where in the hell do you think he got that idea? :-X
I'd love a "free" link to that show -Wednesday June 20th, 2007- anyone?
Sword
Sword - I was not aware of your “predictions in several emails to a notable scientist some years ago”, I must have missed that one – my bad. Is this something you cannot bring out here?
This “Article/Part 7” you speak of, if what you claim would be a strange leap from “Part 6”.
I guess this is why it has not come forth.
I think I understand, if you disclose more you may put your family in danger – cool, I dig that!
Wait, you said things were cooler with “TOP”, and what you could disclose – what’s up(nothing major in disclosure)!
Green - we are basically just waiting, waiting for images, and for someone to do there thing...
You are green to much of what is going on... ...its nuts really... ...i can't definitively prove a damm thing - until the evidence I gave out years ago comes to pass - its a well planned (and dammable) process...
I'm half in and half out of this darkening period...
Sword
OK?
"evidence for a secret space program"
http://www.deepcold.com/
For those who care I stumbled onto this link;
http://www.youtube.com/groups_videos?name=ancientastro
Green-
Don't worry about it - I'm referencing old, old stuff I wrote a long time back - long time readers know what I mean.
Sword - GREEN comes is many SHADES!
Sword said -
Green-
Don't worry about it - I'm referencing old, old stuff I wrote a long time back - long time readers know what I mean.
MeanGreen -
How long ago are we talking about, maybe 3 years?
WTF - I have read that.
Meangreen..Most of this deep sheep is time travel. Enter Montauk and remote viewing. The reverse engineering by Lazar was just dummy up stuff that they well understood way before Lazar got to it. I think they were simply putting Bob on the job to see if he "got it" and what he could do with it.
The technology for time travel was developed from stolen Tesla papers that were captured in Jan. 6, 1943 by Nazis who had been spying on him for decades. The honey pot kid assigned to his case was George Scherf(f) junior, aka George Bush senior who is a transplant from Hitler's Nazi youth here in Amerika. Check out www.thebushconnection.com for pix and more.
The German side of time travel and anti-grav saucers which are actually the same technology was developed for them by Vicktor Schauberger who tried to have his engines patented but were stolen. Amerika's greatest fear from Iran is not the nuclear threat, it's the technology that concentrates the heavy metals. That would be those powerful centrifuges which is at the heart of time/space travel. Space disks use centripedal and centrifugal votex energy. They don't actually move through space. Space moves through time. Oh well. Time will tell.
How in the hell did you get on that topic?
EricSwan - Boy, you sure seem to have summed it all up.
Thanks, but I will put it together as I see it.
It's easy Sword. If there are any artifacts like robot parts or pyramids or Iapetus, they may be artifacts from homo sapiens sapiens. This is the timeline scenario with man of the future 40,000 being gray aliens that need DNA to repair themselves or the Morlocks if you read through some of the science fiction literature of the 19th century. Basically, the choices are two. Above ground or underground. I'm not suggesting here that Dec. 21, 2012 is "the end" but I do think the clock will reset and another 25,960 years will pass and Prometheus will get that rock right to the top of the mountain only to see it roll back down again.
Sword.. You might have included a Sitchen link to your X-mas trilogy. I have never heard of a 3,600 year period for a star of crossing and now, many months later, you finally post a link..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSB4QRjt8fM
Based on the Sumarian texts and Sitchen's comments on the star of crossing, we aren't dealing with a debris field but a space craft. Could you clarify where Planet X fits into this scenario? Do they still need gold and will they be back to pick it up before Planet X gets here?
I'm getting a better picture of what you're on about as the moon is one of the 12 according to Sitchen. It sort of requires some sort of belief in homo erectus to homo sapiens sapiens which doesn't appeal to me. It is saying that the pyramids are aligned to Orion but the fact is they don't. The period of 105,000 plus years since the first visit is not outrageous by any means, but where is the evidence? Anyway, back to regular programming.
By the way Mean...I made that all up. I was just testing you.
ericswan said...
Based on the Sumarian texts and Sitchen's comments on the star of crossing, we aren't dealing with a debris field but a space craft.
Sword says:
He's right about allot of things - and WRONG about allot of things...
Same thing with veloski - (spelling?) - with his theory that the universe is electric - but he is wrong about the earth going through major cataclysms over and over again...
The earth has had its share of destruction by means of impacts - but nothing like he puts forth - the type of destruction he talks about is evident on Mars (total global)- but not here, where is we have had "local" destruction... I hope you get it...
eric - nice touch - by the time I was thinking - its blabber bullshit, you had me going, I was thinking where was he getting this info?... ...from his ass thats where... nice touch... you reminded me of the lady from Zetatalk...
Sword
BTW - New post coming soon...
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